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Prime Minister Returns
Mr. Stephen Harper
(Leader of the Opposition, Canadian Alliance): Mr. Speaker, the Prime
Minister is returning to the country in the midst of the mad cow crisis.
Before the Prime Minister left the country he could not remember if he
discussed the mad cow issue. Now, four weeks later the government still
does not have a plan. Apparently it will be another two weeks before it is
able to come up with any kind of compensation package to address the
industry's problem.
My question is very simple. Is the Prime Minister capable of understanding
that this is an emergency and if he is not interested in doing his job,
why does he not just leave office now?
Right Hon. Jean Chrétien (Prime Minister, Lib.): Mr. Speaker, the
Minister of Agriculture and Agri-Food has worked extremely diligently on
this file. This morning we had a report by a group of international
experts who reported that we have acted more diligently than any other
government. They are complimenting the government for the action it has
taken.
We are very happy that there was only one cow that was affected. A lot of
animals had to be destroyed because of that and, of course, we have
programs within the government to deal with emergencies in the agriculture
sector. We are looking at whether these programs can apply. If not, we
will see what can be done on top of the existing programs that very often
are agreed upon with the provincial governments.
Mr. Peter MacKay (Pictou—Antigonish—Guysborough, PC): Mr.
Speaker, this morning's promise of a future compensation package for
farmers affected by BSE is another cynical attempt to pre-empt the western
premiers' request for aid.
The need for compensation is urgent and immediate. There is a product
backlog and liquidity is the big issue.
When will the government relax the two week waiting period for workers
affected by the ban of Canadian beef and when will it provide a fair and
immediate compensation package for farmers who cannot afford to feed their
cattle?
Hon. Jane Stewart (Minister of Human Resources Development, Lib.):
Mr. Speaker, the Government of Canada is treating Canadians, no matter
where they live, fairly across the country.
With regard to the waiving of the two week period associated with health
realities associated with SARS, this has been applied equally across the
country. Sixty-four Canadians in the western provinces are benefiting from
it.
We are aggressively working with employers and employees to implement
flexible standards of the work-sharing provisions as well as ensure that
we are processing employment insurance claims as quickly as possible,
because we know individuals who are laid off need those benefits urgently.
Ms. Libby Davies (Vancouver East, NDP): Mr. Speaker, while the
Prime Minister is busy congratulating himself, the fact is the western
beef industry is still in crisis and needs help now.
Cattle producers are losing millions. Meat plant workers are losing their
jobs. These people deserve more from their government than glib responses
and buck-passing. They need help and they need it now.
When will the Prime Minister wake up and give some substantive help that
is needed to plant workers and to cattle producers in the country? They
are in crisis. Does the Prime Minister understand that?
Right Hon. Jean Chrétien (Prime Minister, Lib.): Mr. Speaker, we
know that and we are working on it. As I said, we have federal and
provincial programs very often working together to compensate farmers in
difficulties.
This situation is affecting people in Saskatchewan and Alberta. We are
looking at what can be done to give them the proper access to the
resources that are needed for them to get through this very difficult
period.
Mr. Howard Hilstrom (Selkirk—Interlake, Canadian Alliance): Mr.
Speaker, operating cash has run out for the cattle industry and it is
losing one of its main players, the feedlot industry.
Contrary to what the Prime Minister has said, the agriculture policy
framework does not work in this large financial crisis. Feedlot companies
are not even covered by the APF.
We know the cattle industry has developed a compensation package and it is
supported by the western premiers. Why has this government not accepted
the industry's proposal or come forward with one of its own?
[Translation]
Mr. Claude Duplain (Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister of
Agriculture and Agri-Food, Lib.): Mr. Speaker, the Prime Minister
responded to this very well earlier. Government stakeholders, starting
with the Minister of Agriculture, are working with industry people and the
provinces to find a solution to this problem as quickly as possible.
[English]
Mr. Howard Hilstrom (Selkirk—Interlake, Canadian Alliance): Mr.
Speaker, representatives of the industry were down here last week and the
government sent them home on Friday with nothing in their hands, not even
a promise that it would do something. I do not accept that answer. What I
want to see is the government stand and say that it intends to provide
some financial help until that border is opened up and our exports start
to flow again. Is there that commitment or not?
[Translation]
Mr. Claude Duplain (Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister of
Agriculture and Agri-Food, Lib.): Mr. Speaker, as we said earlier, we
are working very hard on this matter. I would like to know whether the
member told his constituents that last week, while the committee was
meeting with people from Saskatchewan, here they called for a vote to
adjourn the House of Commons for the summer holiday. We missed the
meeting.
Mr. Gerry Ritz (Battlefords—Lloydminster, Canadian Alliance): Mr.
Speaker, of the 2,000 animals that have been put down and tested, only one
tested positive. The investigation was comprehensive. What has never been
comprehensive are any specifics on any compensation package for the beef
industry.
Why do the Liberals always come up short on agricultural programs?
[Translation]
Mr. Claude Duplain (Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister of
Agriculture and Agri-Food, Lib.): Mr. Speaker, there are compensation
programs available for producers. As it has been said, right now the
Minister of Agriculture and Agri-Food is in discussions to come up with
other solutions for producers.
[English]
Mr. Gerry Ritz (Battlefords—Lloydminster, Canadian Alliance): Mr.
Speaker, it is always somebody else's fault. Time is of the essence here.
Four weeks have dragged by and there are no plan, no specifics. The beef
industry is fighting off bankruptcy on its own. There is no help from
those guys. Two more weeks to study the findings, they say, and still no
clear signal to the industry or to banks that help is on the way.
What the heck is wrong with those guys? Do they not get it. Why are the
Liberals always found lacking in any crisis?
[Translation]
Mr. Claude Duplain (Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister of
Agriculture and Agri-Food, Lib.): Mr. Speaker, we are not lagging in
any crisis. We are in the process of studying these crises. While we are
studying the matter, as I said earlier, the Canadian Alliance is calling
for votes in the House to interrupt the meetings we are having with people
in Saskatchewan to try to solve the problem.
Ms. Pauline Picard (Drummond, BQ): Mr. Speaker, the impact of the
U.S. ban on Canadian beef does not stop with the west. Quebec's meat
producers are also affected, as are the meat-packing industry workers. A
hundred or so of them have lost their jobs at the Levinoff plant in
Montreal and another twenty-five at the Colbex abattoir in Drummondville,
not to mention the hundreds of others whose jobs are threatened as well.
Having helped the workers in Toronto affected by SARS, does the Minister
of Human Resources Development plan to make available the same assistance
to the Quebec workers who are victims of the beef crisis?
[English]
Hon. Jane Stewart (Minister of Human Resources Development, Lib.):
Mr. Speaker, I would like to reiterate for the hon. member that the
government will treat Canadians fairly no matter where they live. When it
comes specifically to the Employment Insurance Act and its provisions, I
would like to say to the hon. member that the government will be there,
encouraging the use of work sharing and making sure that claims are
processed as quickly as possible. We understand and appreciate the
significant impact that this is having on Canadians across the country.
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